Uncategorized accounts in the chart of accounts

Dear Tut,

It might be… You can see the view of it as below;

Well, you have not apparently renamed anything that would cause this.

I wonder why you have the group Previous Period Closing Balances assigned as a subgroup of the Capital Accounts group. What happens if you reassign that as a group directly under Equity? For that matter, why have this group and the Previous Owner Balances account at all? Manager is a perpetual accounting system, and there is no purpose for isolating prior period capital account balances anywhere.

Likewise, why have you assigned Net Profit (Loss), the renamed Retained earnings account, to the Capital Accounts subgroup?

All these seem like unusual construction for the Equity section of a chart of accounts.

Hi Tut,

Thanks for your comments. This is the special projects with my customer which the company has been bought in the mid of financial period in US.

In order to remove “the uncategorized” i removed my creation on accounts but still it exists even on my summary page as below…

When i appyl for “Exclude zero balances” from my summary the group that still visible …

Is that something coding problem ?

What dates have you set for the summary screen?

Is there a Starting Date set?

Dear @Joe91,

No set date so far as below;

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I think Tut was on the right track - somehow the Suspense Account got assigned to Uncategorised

No idea how to get it re-assigned correctly

@FerhatAL, I have done some experimentation. I believe what happened is that you created an orphaned account or subgroup. As you were setting up this business, with its very strange equity structure, you must have created various groups, subgroups, and accounts. (We see evidence of this in the ones you still have left.) Somewhere, you either failed to assign an account or subgroup to a group or deleted its group assignment. When that happens, Manager automatically creates the Uncategorized group and assigns the account or group to it. If you then delete a higher level structural element, lower level elements become orphans. But, if you delete or reassign all of those, the Uncategorized group should disappear. The problem is, you cannot see the orphan, because it has no content and is not showing. So, I conclude the orphan must be the Suspense account, which does not show on the chart of accounts and appears on the Summary only when it has a non-zero balance.

While I think I know what happened, I cannot actually reproduce it. Since you cannot edit the Uncategorized group or the Suspense account, you cannot easily reassign or delete anything to resolve this issue.

Although you did not say so explicitly, you implied you are just setting up this business. If I were you, I would start over, creating the desired chart of accounts directly, without any modifications or changes. If the problem reappears at some point, you will know that whatever you just did is the problem.

The other question you did not answer was whether you have a start date set. You showed a screen shot indicating your Summary is set up to display all transactions regardless of date. But @Joe91’s question was about the start date under Starting Balances in the Settings tab. Do you have anything set there? And do you have starting balances? Something there could also be related.

Dear Tut,

In the beginning i was trying to seting the dates then i have changed my mind and cleared all starting balances. Now, There is no starting balance. Somehow, suspense account is stucked as uncategorized. The other accounts are well working. If i consider of re-creation of the business, there are lots of records have to be carried into another one.

Can @lubos help for this matter ? If the problem is about programming ?

I would be greatful if there is any method in order to get suspense account back.

Thanks…

Post a receipt without specifying a bank account and the Suspense account will be used

You still have not answered whether you have a start date set, whether or not you have starting balances.

He said he had cleared them in post 27 or 28

No, the exact statement was, “…cleared all starting balances.” No mention of the start date itself. I’m looking for any shred of an idea about how to reproduce this.

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try creating a transaction without allocating it to any account so that it would reflect under the Suspense account. this would clear the doubt whether the Suspense account is uncategorized. depending on the result we could try to find a solution.

Hi @Tut, No starting date set.

Dear @sharpdrivetek,

Yes, the amounts are reflecting to the suspense account and it’s under of uncategorized.

What i have done lastly, I have removed all main and sub accounts and created new ones but no result yet.

Much appreciated for your endless support!

I have asked @lubos to look at this and give his advice.

This issue should be now fixed in the latest version (20.7.69)

@lubos Thank you dear! That’s ok now.