Prevent Users from Saving a Blank Record in Manager

Currently it is possible to save a record with absolutely no information on the record. Please can the Manager io team look into this. It is not a significant issue but does open the door to irrelevant information sitting in a database. Ideally the user should get a warning preventing them from saving a blank record.

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It is easy to detect these once in a while and bulk delete.

Deleting a Transaction may cause problems with the Reference Number.
Some people do not want the reference number to be lost, he has to change all the reference numbers after the deleted number.

Adding Validation to Forms is a good idea.
I support this request

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This is true, however, being able to save blank records serves no relevance. The system should guard against accepting information that is clearly incorrect. Also, where the system automatically assigns reference numbers, you will end up having reference numbers generated and having to be deleted unnecessarily , breaking the reference number sequence.

This indeed would be more work because ideally you delete them from history so that they do not hinder the auto-numbering.

Greying out the save button when no change has been made to a record would be a useful feature which could apply to all of Manager’s screens.

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This is a very good suggestion.

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I actually use this.
I have a supplier who I do warranty work for and they pay me via a RCTI (Recipient Created Tax Invoice) and they need my invoice number to apply to the invoice they create.
Once they have filled the relevant information in and forwarded it to me I then put that into the previously blank invoice. Thus satisfying all requirements of the ATO for record keeping.
Giving a warning may be appropriate, but we should not be prevented from doing it.

Mmm
I did wonder if some users intentionally reserved invoice numbers.
@VACUUMDOG You could enter preliminary data such as supplier and maybe other data. That would create changes to the invoice which Manger would be expected to save.

I do enter the “Customers Name”.
The problem I could see would be that once a date had been entered the form is no longer blank.
You can try and enter a sales invoice without a date but you end up with the following


You would have to set up a lot of conditions to prevent a blank invoice altogether.

I am putting this into ideas.

I assumed the Manager on entry to a form would add automated entries such as reference number and form default for a new form, current values for an existing entry. Save those values then compare to that.

Almost same idea. We are waiting for this feature.

Someone might have mentioned this, but is it also possible to have an error when no account is selected with an invoice in a line? Some of my clients do this to add lines to an invoice for aesthetic purposes, and it puts the entire invoice in suspense. Thanks :slight_smile:

That is an extremely poor practice. Every line item on any transaction in Manager is treated as an accounting record. The program should not be used in this way as a word processing program. Users who are more concerned about aesthetics than accounting are focused on entirely the wrong thing. People who do this think they are adding space on a document. Instead, they are corrupting their database.

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Oh I did not know that,
cause I often have a couple of blank lines on my invoice.

Good tha you now realize you should not have.

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