STP Phase 2

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Hello, I’m just wondering if we’re ready to migrate to Phase 2 with the CSV uploads? Has anyone done this yet and how’d you go?

Thanks very much.

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STP Phase 2 not yet supported but it will be sometime early next month.

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I believe https://www.singletouch.com.au/ are currently doing this. And they are used by Manager for STP phase 1

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I’m still struggling to get my head around the whole cradle to grave for doing STP1.
And by way of coincidence, I’m currently trying to do this task right now, hunting for information on ATO, Manager & SingleTouch … feeling lost & confused.
Mine should be relatively easy to do, as it’s only me (one man show), but ideally an end to end - no steps skipped tutorial/guide would be very nice to follow, else a mentor.

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Have you searched the forum? There have been extensive discussions with instructions.

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Yes Tut. I’ve also participated in some of those very discussions in the past, some are dating back to 2018 and are now very dated, there were also some questions asked which went unanswered.
By “end to end - no steps skipped tutorial/guide” I mean something that is contemporary, succinct, covers all steps and is all in the one place, rather than hunting over multiple forums and websites to piece it all together.
There is no point in making a guide for those already experienced, so a guide should assume zero previous knowledge (without being demeaning)

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Thanks, that’s good as I think we have to start using it by 1st March.

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Hi there,
I’ve read through the forum discussions but I’m still not sure if we’re ‘good to go’ with Phase 2 Single Touch Reporting.
Really appreciate the work you’re doing, thanks.

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See This @Neatie1 .

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Thanks, I did see that but was a bit worried by:

But, it’s still a bit rough to use. I will need extra day or two to make this more user friendly.

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Any update on the STP Phase 2?

Im looking at getting an employee for the first time and it seems like the ATO has made this extremely hard for small businesses. It almost seems more cost effective to get an accountant rather than some of the subscription software for this.

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Hello everyone,

I know there are a few old topics about this but I wanted to start something recent to keep it going.
Is anything in the development pipeline to make manager STP compliant with the recent ATO requirements in Australia? The only desktop software that does STP that I could find is FAS3. It is very secure but I don’t find it intuitive to learn.

A collaboration between FAS3 and manager could get STP of the ground for manager maybe.

I would love to see something happen in this area and would even pay for support and development in this area (though meagerly compared to the cost of apps I have heard of).

If anyone has solutions to get employees paid while complying with the rediculous ATO requirements and using manager, please let me know.
It almost seems more cost effective to me to get an accountant to do this for me rather than pay for some of the STP enables software via subscription.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts.

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Please familiarize yourself with FAQ - Manager Forum which helps to keep things on the forum tidy, in particular:

  • Don’t cross-post the same question or comment in multiple topics.

Forum discussions about a topic can only be “refreshed, to keep it going” by posting comments within that topic. Creating new ones on the same just makes it very confusing and difficult to follow.

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As payroll reporting becomes more onerous, this makes it more economical and effective to use 3rd party payroll services either as a cloud service or a separate payroll package.

This ensures that your business is always up to date with new legislation and reporting services.

Payroll regulations and reporting is almost always specific to a country and it is not possible for general accounting software to provide comprehensive support

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Have you tried using the solution already set up for STP in Manager?

We have been using it for several years. It works well in my experience and is not hard to use.

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Thanks for the move and reminder Eko.

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Hi Patch,

Are you refering to csv sheets exported for Singletouch.com.au?

That has been the solution that I have read about. I was really hoping there was a solution that did not involve third parties due to privacy concerns and also due to additional business costs that I can cover myself if I dont have an employee.

3rd party software seems like it will use my time to implement, learn and upkeep. So my current thinking is that I can pay an accountant to do everything. And at least Ill be supporting a person, and not supporting software I dont ethically agree with.

Preferance would be for manager to be able to support STP in australia and thats why I would be happy to put some money towards that. This is software that is good at being user friendly and affordable for small business. Id support that but for Aussies now it really needs to be STP enabled.
I dont know if making it STP friendly is an easy thing or a hard thing to do. Im not sure what is required for that.

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I agree directly to ATO is best for privacy but as the third party business model is based on a fee from the employer they have some incentive to maintain privacy.

For cost using Manager existing solution is far less than your accountant or developing another integration.

For complexity outsourcing is probably easiest however setting up STP is not difficult.

Edit
For (an old) pricing comparison see Single Touch Payroll Australia - #68 by Patch
For the current list of options see https://softwaredevelopers.ato.gov.au/product-register

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