Google mail & Microsoft discontinue SMTP May, 2022


Less secure apps & your Google Account

To help keep your account secure, from May 30, 2022, ​​Google no longer supports the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your Google Account using only your username and password.

Important: This deadline does not apply to Google Workspace or Google Cloud Identity customers. The enforcement date for these customers will be announced on the Workspace blog at a later date.


It seems that both Google & Microsoft are changing access to their platforms long-term and are no longer going to suuport access via smtp, and will require 2FA.

Are their plans to update the email product in Manager? Is there an ETA on the completion of this update?

I pay for Google so it will not affect me for a while longer, but longer term, the current email product will no longer work at a time in the future for paid users, and already doesn’t work for “some” free account users of both gmail and 365.

Thank you
Jason

I also wanted to add…

  1. i’m new here and currently am evaluating the product for production use
  2. I do not expect that just because I posted a topic, that it will get a reply from the developers
  3. I wanted to share the info with everyone, in case you did not know about it.
  4. I look forward to reading more in the forums / interacting with some of you
  5. GOAL: one day I shall interact with Lubos…(ha ha ha …its a joke fools)

Please note that this topic has been addressed on the forum for GMAIL. The solution is at Google Gmail | Manager

Also note that SFA has to do with authentication while SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) is a mail protocol and will remain the standard mail protocol for both Microsoft and Google.

What is changing is related to how SMTP gets authenticated from the previous relative unsafe authentication method to one that includes an App with 2FA as in Google’s case where the SMTP password that comes from the app is 16 characters long and is thus much more secure.

Microsoft and probably many others are following suit to ensure that authentication of SMTP becomes more secure.

Thanks for the reply eko.
I understand your reply, and yes that is previously documented in the forum. My apologies for not referencing it 1st.

What I was trying to say is that SMTP “Less Secure Apps” even with 2FA, is going to go the way of the dodo bird for free accounts and eventually for paid accounts.

I have several IT guys telling me they are having headaches with 2FA/less secure apps/and the 16 digit password with free google gmail accounts (they say the password is having to be reset every 30 days), and also issues with 365 forcing to exchange server protocols. Several email clients/copiers are having issues with it at the moment.

I am currently NOT having issues with it as I have a paid account and enabling 2FA and setting up a “less secure” password works quite well in “Manager” at this time.

I do not know if/when SMTP support using 2FA using less secure apps will end for paid accounts, but I am hearing from my group of IT friends here in the US, that indeed SMTP is going away and that this is the beginning of it. I just wanted to share with the group and raise the “potential” issue for discussion.

Have a great week.
Jason

So what is the alternative to SMTP for sending emails? You may have noticed that Manager already supports SMTP with TLS (port 587).

I did indeed noticed TLS…its what I am currently using in Manager at the moment.

How bout this… since this is a forum, if anyone is having Legit issues with SMTP 2FA with “Less Secure Apps” enabled… and its not just a setup/user issue…please reply to this topic.

Otherwise, I will just let it lie in the dirt for now.
I am hopeful SMTP stays around a long while.
Thanks for the replies eko

Yes actually it is SMTP with STARTLS (port 587). As far as I know there is no alternative to SMTP to send emails, there are several such as IMAP and POP and some that have some intermediate interface for enhanced security be it active directory (Microsoft) or open directory (believe Google app is moving through that. If you do not want to be “restricted” by Google or Microsoft then you can use SMTP providers such as Sendblue or use a hosting provider with your own domain name.

I am closing this topic since it really is not about the Manager application. This is not a forum for discussion of broader IT issues.

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