New Experimental Summary Screen

This had something to do with using Non-Inventory Items in the Purchase Invoice line

When I remove the Non-Inventory code and post directly to the account it seems to be fixed

I will try the new version

@Joe91 that’s correct. The new version is fixing that.

That has fixed it

No issues on my side

This causes a big change to my Foreign exchange gains (losses) account.



As well as the change in the amount, I’m now not able to drill down on it.

(Desktop edition 20.5.73)

It has also caused very small changes to my Accounts receivable and Inventory - cost (23c and 3c differences).

I have a custom clearing account for dealing with freight-in costs (as described here). This had a balance of zero, but with the experimental summary screen now has a very large negative balance.

@lubos, with the new screen (v20.5.74) on a real business, every single sales invoice ever created has moved to Suspense. When drilling down on the Suspense balance, the bread crumbs show the UUID in place of the Suspense account’s name. All customers and every line item in the erroneously moved sales invoices still show correct account allocations, regardless of where else I look at them.

On multiple test businesses, I find such a strange collection of errors I cannot characterize them. Errors include:

  • Some, but not all, sales invoices moved to Suspense
  • Multiple entries in Suspense for a single sales invoice, all with amounts that do not match any line on the actual sales invoice
  • Fixed assets - depreciation balance where none exists in the regular display. Strangely, in this case, the new screen seems correct and the old one incorrect. This anomaly carries over to the Fixed assets, accumulated depreciation account.

Admittedly, some of the errors on test businesses may be the result of butchery while exploring other users’ problems and simulating test cases. (Entries sometimes bear little relationship to actual situations.) That may contribute to the difficulty in characterizing them. But there is no question there are differences between results displayed with the two engines.

@GrahamvdR can you please test with the latest version (20.5.75) ?

Journals to the Withholding Tax account are showing in Suspense account. 20.5.75

The version (20.5.78) is fixing issues raised by @Tut and @AJD

Withholding journals no longer in suspense, but not clearing the withholding accounts correctly. Balances should be zero:


Also, drill down on Withholding Tax account produces this error:


And, No drilldown available for Retained earnings and Foreign exchange gains

The new summary screen matches the existing summary screen when the accrual basis of accounting is selected. When the accounting method is changed to a cash basis it does not exclude billable time and billable time movement.

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I had not noticed that. @lubos, this is a major shortcoming for sole traders who have renamed Retained earnings as Owner’s equity.

Retained earnings should not require drill-down. It is arrived at by calculating undistributed net profit. Instead of drilling down on the retained earnings transactions it is more helpful to drill-down on income and expense figures that are unusual. Perhaps the equity section of the summary should show the summary of changes in equity.

Just installed V 20.5.81 and notice that a right-click does not offer the option “Open in a new tab” but only “Open in a new Window”

But maybe it was always like that

That’s normal for the desktop versions. After you open it in a new window then open in a new tab is possible

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I am on 5.47 and and it’s only “Open in a new Window”.

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@lubos I’ve just tested with 20.5.81. There is now a 1c difference between the amounts in Foreign exchange gains (losses), 23c in Accounts receivable, 2c in Inventory on hand, 5c in Inventory - cost, 4c in Net profit, and 25c in Retained earnings.

I tried 20.5.74 briefly last night, and since then the issue with my clearing account seems to be fixed. But it did also introduce 1c into Suspense, which is coming from this journal entry:

(This 1c in Suspense shows in both Summary screens.)

@tony the latest version (20.5.82) filters out billable time when on cash-basis
@AJD the latest version fixing the drilling-down error on Withholding tax account and making Retained earnings and Foreign exchange gains / losses clickable.

The implementation of how drilling-down into these two accounts is working is different now.

  • Previously, Retained earnings would show all the transactions in P&L + direct entries. New implementation shows direct entries only.
  • As for currency gains / losses account, it is now presenting the calculation in more compact way to make it easier to understand.

That probably come from the rounding issue
the two credit entries are 38.15 + 73.45 = 111.60 and the debit entry 111.61