I’m using the Desktop version of Manager on macOS Ventura (13.6.4). I recently updated my copy of Manager to 24.4.8.1419, and I just noticed that a new folder has appeared in my Documents folder. The folder is called Manager.io and the only thing in it is a tiny (74 byte) file called ‘data’. This i…

[image] Kal: I notice that the ‘Change Data Folder…’ command now exists in the Mac’s File menu. I assume this replaces the ‘Change Folder’ button that used to appear at the bottom of the window when you first opened Manager. That’s correct. The old Change Folder button would be creating data …

Default application data folder for desktop edition is My Documents, Documents or equivalent. If you change the folder, then Manager will create file data that just contains your new application data folder path.

I assume this is a recent change then? The Manager.io folder only appeared in my Documents folder after a recent update. As I mentioned, this has long been considered bad practice on the Mac. I’ll quote from the old Apple developer docs : Don’t Pollute User Space It is important to remember that t…

[image] Kal: It is important to remember that the user domain (/Users) is intended for files created by the user. Well, I’d argue that businesses that you create in Manager are files created by the user. So not sure what is your interpretation. You can argue, that data file is not a file cre…

The folder named Manager.io is not a folder that I created. Manager put it there without my permission. Now if I can’t even delete it without Manager losing track of the path to my data file, this isn’t a grey area open to personal interpretation. Manager is clearly breaking the ‘Don’t Pollute User …

Alright. So basically what we are arguing about is that data file should really be in ~/Library/Application Support folder.

I don’t know if Apple has current documentation on this, but this archived page explains various Library directories and their purposes. It says that Application Support contains ‘files that your app creates and manages on behalf of the user and can include files that contain user data.’ So yes, tha…

@Karl , maybe you did not understand what @Lubos was explaining. The Manager.io folder you are referring to used to save and use Manager Data and not the Application, which is ion the Applications folder. As soon as you create a business in Manager it will save that Business file in the Manager.io fo…

[image] lubos: data file should really be in ~/Library/Application Support folder. Sounds like a reasonable default to me for user data managed by the application (Manager).

@eko , I think I understand exactly what Lubos is saying, I just don’t happen to agree with him. [image] eko: As soon as you create a business in Manager it will save that Business file in the Manager.io folder because it in essence is a document same as a spreadsheet or word document. I don’…

Well it happens to be what Manager does. You articulated your disagreement very well, but that does not mean that this practice needs changing. It is up to @Lubos to review and see if it makes sense to prompt for a data folder upon installation.

'Manager.io' folder appearing in user 'Documents' folder on Mac

lubos August 23, 2025, 2:20am 17

This issue has been now resolved. Manager doesn’t need data file anymore.

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'Manager.io' folder appearing in user 'Documents' folder on Mac

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