But i would still recommend making this negative inventory account as custom negative inventory clearing (Just like Custom income/expense account) also with the ability to select either Balance sheet or a Profit & Loss account. And the default account for Negative clearing will be Inventory -costlike it used to do. This way users previous figures would remain same as Manager behaved like this from the start (Posting only realized inventory cost to Profit and Loss) even with Automatic inventory. So suddenly moving those figures to Balance Sheet would create issues for other users.
Or Just make this whole thing optional, If option is checked inventory would also go negative.
We are in the same situation with audited accounts that are now all different in this regards. How can we go back since now we are with date on the previous years that doesnāt match audited accounts
@Joao_Gouveia if there is a difference due to negative inventory, the best way is to make a journal entry to adjust Inventory - cost to what it should be. That will make your financial statements in Manager exactly like the already audited ones.
you can really just check the inventory unit cost and recalculate it, but for me it does not work due to specific inventory item (oil products via pipe-line). It could be resolved, but it is several days of work to verify it precisely with last years GL. As for me - backup and offline version 25.10.23.3022 works fine.
I found a bug. For me, if i do not have āShow balances for specified periodā when i click on the negative inventory Clearing total under expenses i get an error page.
I just updated to 25.11.11.3118 and thereās a new account Negative inventory clearing in my assets with a super high figure. Itās messing up my P&L for all the years starting from 2017. How do I fix this?
Edit: I clicked on the amount showing up in Negative Inventory Clearingā and then on the top right clicked āRecalculateā and then clicked on āApply Changesā. This messed up my Cost of Sales now
Yes, I had to āRecalculateā Cost of sales as well starting from 2017 all the way till now. It seems to have done something, but I need to keep checking if all the figures are correct.
I get scared of updating the versions now because at the moment Iām not sure what just happened with the costs here.
Edit: Nope, my 2024 Balance Sheet and P&L is still messed up. My cost of sales is really high and recalculating unit costs isnāt showing anything to do. I donāt know how these numbers are so high and how to fix this.
Yeah, older versions were doing a lot on demand. This was causing instability between versions because coding change could affect calculations.
Newer versions, in relation to inventory, they store unit costs as data. They are not calculated on demand anymore. This will make them immutable to version updates.
So I know updating between versions have caused issues but the work that is being done is for upgrades not to cause any issues in the future. In long run, people will see upgrading is safe and wonāt break anything. But it really required me to rethink certain parts of Manager and implement future-proof solutions.
Iāve just rolled back to 25.11.5.3094 and the older file before I upgraded.
Edit: @lubos Iāve just sent you the file via WeTransfer. I wasnāt able to open the file with the older version of Manager even though itās the same file that was last used with it. No idea why. Had to delete that 0000.manager file too. Successfully downgraded to 25.11.5.3094 now!
@lubos Please revert this adjustment, it has changed all previous years data, there are variance of thousands of transactions compare to audited and submitted reports. Make this optional or remove it !
Has anyone found a solution to this? My Inventory-cost has decreased and Inventory on hand inflated A LOT. Iām not a professional accountant and donāt know how to fix this mess. My P&L is way off. Need a CTRL+Z for this real bad. Iām afraid of clicking āRecalculateā at this point cus it might make things even worse. Such experimental features definitely need to be optional.
Recalculate button does work properly and there is no known bug in it. It can handle any inventory scenario. So definitely use it.
Iām wondering how to implement it in UI differently. So if Manager detects your inventory costs need to be recalculated, it will not even show you the incorrect figures until recalculation is done.
Thatās the point. Manager.io is used by small and medium sized SMEs mostly and these unannounced changes mess up our books of accounts. Super annoying and unprofessional by the software developer @lubos@lubos I know you mean well and want to give us an improved product, but by forcing these changes on your users which often use manager with workarounds to make all the data fit, you are giving us massive challenges, like with this one, our books were audited for the last previous years, your change messed the numbers up and now we need to look for more workarounds to undo the mess
An item in the Inventory Cost Correction notes https://www.manager.io/guides/inventory-cost-correction reads. One of the things as to āWhy Manual Correction is Necessaryā it says the following:- Control over historical data: You might want to limit how far back Manager recalculates inventory costs to preserve the integrity of closed periods. This control is maintained through your lock date configuration.
I have not tested this lock date setting but it may as it says preserve records pre the set lock date? Unfortunately for some if you have not made a pre āInventory Cost Correctionā backup it may be impracticable to carry out a history āundoā
Not a solution to the problem, but good practice would be to make backup of your business once you have completed an external audit or any year-end completion state, make a Backup of your business which you can roll back to in need.