Start date no longer required

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This clears much of the confusion, but could you please elaborate more on these two areas?

  • Treatment of partially paid starting invoices.
  • Treatment of taxes for starting invoices.
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Just enter credit notes or receipts to partially pay them. Basically, itā€™s no different from what you would normally do.

You donā€™t do anything different. Enter invoices the same way you will enter any other invoice after starting. Whatever VAT payable balance you end up on balance sheet, you will then set starting balance for VAT payable account so you get desired closing balance.

For example, if you know your closing balance on previous accounting system is $4,000 and your invoices and other transactions you have entered from the old accounting system is $3,000. Then your starting balance for the account should be $1,000 so you arrive at $4,000.

This $1,000 starting balance represents all the transactions you didnā€™t enter from the old system.

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I found a lot of issues in Sales Invoice that suddenly outstanding, purchase invoice as well. Inventory still screwed up (Qty to Receive & To Deliver suddenly appears). Start Date from my opinion is very important as a cut off in the system, especially when youā€™re moving from another system to Manager.

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Can you show what issues you have and post screenshots of the invoices, edit screens, ?

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Yes, as @Joe91 said, we like to see what kind of problems you feel that surfaced after update. Pls post some screenshot

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The fix I have provided doesnā€™t handle pre-start invoices with inventory items correctly. I have good understanding what needs to be done and working on improvements.

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Hi Lubos, Iā€™ll check on it. Hopefully itā€™ll fix the issue.

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Hi @lubos

Truly remarkable program and effort. Big thank you for that.
But let me suggest what me and some other users really miss - stability and predictability.
Manager is rapidly evolving and many new features being introduced with new releases, which happen quite often. But that means more bugs, often regression or changes in processes, reports or any other change, that we would not like to have at this particular moment.

Why not to have so called Stable branch - with less features, not that often updated, but more stable, well tested, more predictable with new features only introduced when they are tested enough and proved to be working for some time as expected.

Thanks
S

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@Solnce the best way to prevent data loss or number mismatch is not to update immediately after a release on the live version you are using. Rather install the new updates on a separate test machine. The other way to manage data loss or changes in new update installation is to wait for all possible negative effects to be addressed before you update to the latest version.

If you are using a cloud edition this does not apply. It updates automatically. This applies when you are using the server or desktop edition.

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I agree with you. And I didnā€™t upgrade.

But, again, this seems not a bug but a deliberate decision of the developer that suggested to do hand adjustments to already locked and deposited numbers which is illegal.

The alternative to this is to never update Manager again. And this is not acceptable.

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Yes, but thatā€™s the other thing - consistency.
I can wait long enough (and I was doing this), but that worked in the way that Iā€™ve been jumping over bugs - some been repaired, but then anothers introduced and this is never ending story.

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Iā€™ve manages to use the same version at about 1.5 years.
Well yes, you can do this, but again - not an option, just workaround.

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This means also renouncing to all future new functionalitiesā€¦

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This update should be reversed immediately since it has messed up all our customer balances and statements.

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Please I need help. How does one enter the starting balances for old receivables and payables in this updated version of manager. I know that previously, one just needs to raise invoices for them and put dates prior to the start date. But in this new updated version of manager please how is it done?

Thanks.

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The same way I believe. There is no start date now, you only generate reports for relevant periods. So, just capture all unpaid invoices before the beginning of your relevant period.

Tip: Make sure you capture transactions the right way (what the Guides | Manager says). If you use your own methods to capture transactions, future updates may give you a problem.

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I am grateful for this. So it means that even the invoices before my start date will now be showing in the total sales of my summary. Unlike before where they will only show as receivables and not in the sales summary.

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Edit the Summary to only show the period you want

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Okay. Thanks so much.

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Please any update on this? Customer balances have been messed up by this start date removal