# Manager crashes with macOS 11 (Big Sur) **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [November 17, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655 "2020-11-17T12:19:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/aror/32/1022_2.png) [@Aror](https://forum.manager.io/u/Aror)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/41 "2020-11-19T18:47:50Z")
Sounds a lot like my problem indeed. Did you try to install the server edition? (I’m so glad I can make my invoices and do my administration… it’s a little more work now, but I can make my sales invoices now, so earn some money 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/42 "2020-11-19T20:17:21Z")
Yes this is happening to myself as well, HELP! ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/43 "2020-11-19T22:07:57Z")
I cannot make an invoice, it shuts down immediately as soon as I click on customer; no idea what to do, downloaded server edition too same problem. ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/44 "2020-11-19T22:13:12Z")
@tammyreed, please search the forum before starting new topics. Your post has been joined to this ongoing discussion. Read the topic for suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/45 "2020-11-19T22:27:29Z")
@Tut… Yes I have, I downloaded new version and server edition as well but still crashes… I’m not savvy in this area so guidance is very appreciated😁 ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/46 "2020-11-19T22:47:32Z")
> [@tammyreed](#): > > I cannot make an invoice, it shuts down immediately as soon as I click on customer Is it just on sales invoices and only when you click on `Customer` field? What about purchase invoices and clicking on `Supplier` field? Or `Journal Entry` and clicking on `Account` field? ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/47 "2020-11-19T23:02:42Z")
It’s happening with invoices and credit but will let me create a receipt and does happen in journal as well ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/48 "2020-11-19T23:08:24Z")
Please be more specific, @tammyreed. The details matter. What kind of invoices? You were asked if it is happening with purchase invoices and the `Supplier` field and with the `Account` field on journal entries. And what are you referring to when you write “credit?” ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/49 "2020-11-19T23:18:02Z")
@Tut, my apologies. I just use sales invoices, credits and receipts, nothing else, I’m basic in and out recording [image|375x500](https://forum.manager.io/uploads/short-url/lZXuIr321TXcap3VByykQNiFXPH.jpeg) . ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/50 "2020-11-19T23:28:02Z")
So are you referring to credit notes? If so, does the crash occur when clicking on the `Customer` field? Or at some other point? You mentioned “journal” in an earlier post. Presumably, you meant journal entries, but your graphic shows you have never entered one. So what did that reference mean? ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/51 "2020-11-19T23:29:48Z")
@tut, yes. I tested journal to see if it was happening elsewhere in places I don’t use. I have found however by trial that if I don’t hit the tab button and manually click on the fields, I can create an invoice and receipts, it’s only when tabbing it crashes ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/52 "2020-11-19T23:37:15Z")
Ah, that could be important. Thank you. @lubos, please note. ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/53 "2020-11-19T23:45:54Z")
@Tut, thank you! ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/54 "2020-11-21T21:56:28Z")
I was wondering if you had any suggestions on how to proceed, I have been able to create manually since we last spoke. ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/55 "2020-11-21T22:21:15Z")
I would keep doing things manually for now. As feedback on Big Sur comes in, user experiences vary. So far, no actual bugs have been identified. ---
**Author:** ![tammyreed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tammyreed/32/8610_2.png) [@tammyreed](https://forum.manager.io/u/tammyreed)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/56 "2020-11-21T22:56:54Z")
Thank you, will do. I appreciate the support…will continue to follow this topic. ---
**Author:** ![bturgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/bturgan/32/11625_2.png) [@bturgan](https://forum.manager.io/u/bturgan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/57 "2020-11-22T09:11:12Z")
I have BigSur installed on 2016 Macbook Pro but I dont have any problems with Manager yet. Just for info. ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/58 "2020-11-22T09:37:21Z")
> [@tammyreed](#): > > I have found however by trial that if I don’t hit the tab button and manually click on the fields, I can create an invoice and receipts, it’s only when tabbing it crashes @Aror could this be the same issue you are facing? ---
**Author:** ![VISA-MC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/67e7ee/32.png) [@VISA-MC](https://forum.manager.io/u/VISA-MC)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/59 "2020-11-22T18:03:37Z")
I just wanted to chime in with my experience. I am willing to test if anyone needs specifics. Downloaded manager desktop to work for a couple days because the internet is spotty where I am. Cannot when using the tab key or enter key the app crashes. It’s not a manager warning it just closes completely out and gives you the warning from Apple that it closed unexpectedly and if you would like to report it. @lubos I have a deep technology background, if you need help diagnosing from a Mac let me know. ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/60 "2020-11-22T20:09:53Z")
I’m going to upgrade to Big Sur to see if I can reproduce this issue as well. [Previous page](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655.md?page=4)