# Manager crashes with macOS 11 (Big Sur) **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [November 17, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655 "2020-11-17T12:19:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/21 "2020-11-18T10:33:02Z")
zainabf@Zainabs-MBP ManagerServer-Mac-x64 % ./ManagerServer Manager Server [Version 20.10.65] Copyright (c) 2020 NGSoftware. All rights reserved. Syntax: ``` ManagerServer [options] ``` Options: ``` -port [number] Set port on which HTTP server should listen on. -path [directory] Set directory where Manager should look for data. ``` Examples: ``` ManagerServer ManagerServer -port 80 ManagerServer -port 80 -path "/Users/zainabf/.local/share/Manager" ``` [14:21:35] HTTP server listening on port 8080 ---
**Author:** ![Aror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/aror/32/1022_2.png) [@Aror](https://forum.manager.io/u/Aror)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/22 "2020-11-18T10:43:25Z")
Well, it looks like the server is running… Here ends my knowledge… Mine was working after these steps. Maybe close the Terminal again, and start the server all over again with Terminal… Maybe it misses one or two permissions, what will reappear when you start it up again. More than this I really don’t know. Sorry 😞 ---
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/23 "2020-11-18T11:14:36Z")
It worked. Thanks a lot. Tried it several times! Finally managed to open it on my browser. Now how do I upgrade my desktop version? ---
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/24 "2020-11-18T11:16:32Z")
Below is what it says now. ![Screen Shot 2020-11-18 at 3.15.44 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/manager1/original/3X/8/f/8f89d7878c9e8e6adfb36f39e6d578f96261620c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/25 "2020-11-18T11:21:04Z")
Done. Saw the previous guides and forums. All working now. Thank you heaps 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/26 "2020-11-18T07:47:30Z")
I just upgraded to macOS Big Sur and I am not able to open my desktop version now. Can someone please assist? ---
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/27 "2020-11-18T07:48:27Z")
Below is the error I get. ![Screen Shot 2020-11-18 at 8.32.21 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/manager1/original/3X/4/d/4d322c1d12b07a115e89e19b2d3637f34af8292d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 8:23am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/28 "2020-11-18T08:23:41Z")
Have a look at this thread > [@Manager crashes with macOS 11 (Big Sur)](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655): > > Hi, I tried to make some invoices today, but, manager crashed time after time. Tried to download from the website, (thought, maybe need an update) Same result, manager crashes. Is this a known problem? I open Manager, try to make a new sales invoice, When I give the name of the costumer Manager closes and Apple gives me a failure report. (don’t know if you want the entire report, or only need a small piece of it.) tried again, I passed the name, but with submitting a record it crashes ag… And it is probably a better place to have further discussions ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/29 "2020-11-18T12:33:40Z")
@Alistar, your post #9 and all responses to it were moved to this topic to consolidate discussion of this important issue. Please do not ask the same question in multiple topics. That reduces the chances of getting help. ---
**Author:** ![Aror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/aror/32/1022_2.png) [@Aror](https://forum.manager.io/u/Aror)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/30 "2020-11-18T16:21:12Z")
@lubos Do you need more info from me for fixing it, or do I have to use the server edition from now on? ---
**Author:** ![joshray02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@joshray02](https://forum.manager.io/u/joshray02)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/31 "2020-11-18T16:47:38Z")
Hi guys - I am getting the same error as Alistar after downloading Big Sur on Mac. I am not nearly as advanced as the folks in this forum & would be happy to pay for assistance to fix this issue. Please help if you are able ---
**Author:** ![joshray02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@joshray02](https://forum.manager.io/u/joshray02)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/32 "2020-11-18T16:50:28Z")
18.10.89: System.Net.Sockets.SocketException (0x80004005): Address already in use at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Bind (System.Net.EndPoint localEP) [0x00043] in :0 at System.Net.EndPointListener…ctor (System.Net.HttpListener listener, System.Net.IPAddress addr, System.Int32 port, System.Boolean secure) [0x00047] in :0 at System.Net.EndPointManager.GetEPListener (System.String host, System.Int32 port, System.Net.HttpListener listener, System.Boolean secure) [0x0009d] in :0 at System.Net.EndPointManager.AddPrefixInternal (System.String p, System.Net.HttpListener listener) [0x0005e] in :0 at System.Net.EndPointManager.AddListener (System.Net.HttpListener listener) [0x0009c] in :0 at System.Net.HttpListener.Start () [0x0000f] in :0 at HttpFramework.HttpServer.Start (HttpFramework.HttpApplication httpApplication, System.Nullable`1[T] port, System.String hostname) [0x000e9] in \<4f72fd3435344df7af508979d3157d33\>:0 at ManagerDesktop.Program.Main (System.String args) [0x0021b] in \<5ae8a457bc8340caa32da99b32bd403a\>:0 ---
**Author:** ![Aror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/aror/32/1022_2.png) [@Aror](https://forum.manager.io/u/Aror)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/33 "2020-11-18T18:14:35Z")
Did you download the newest version of the desktop edition? When I read the last messages of Alistar, this could have been his problem from the beginning 😉 Let’s start there ---
**Author:** ![joshray02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@joshray02](https://forum.manager.io/u/joshray02)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/34 "2020-11-18T18:17:55Z")
I could cry tears of joy right now - I was so afraid to do anything because I feared losing all of my business information forever. I just did what you said & downloaded the new version & like magic it is working now! thank you Thank You THANK YOU! ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/35 "2020-11-18T20:13:58Z")
@Aror from what I can see, it doesn’t look like the crashing occurs due to a bug in Manager. There is some other component causing this but based on the error you’ve posted - it’s not possible to determine which one. What makes it more difficult is that your error cannot be reproduced by other Mac users. I’d wait for the first patch for Big Sur from Apple to see if it fixes the issue. Chances are it could. In the meantime I suggest to use free trial of server edition. I know it’s less convenient but at least you will have a working system. ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/36 "2020-11-18T20:19:18Z")
@Alistar can you make sure you are using the latest version? As far as I can tell, this error message is not possible in the latest version. ---
**Author:** ![Aror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/aror/32/1022_2.png) [@Aror](https://forum.manager.io/u/Aror)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/37 "2020-11-18T20:27:18Z")
> [@lubos](#): > > I’d wait for the first patch for Big Sur from Apple to see if it fixes the issue. Chances are it could. In the meantime I suggest to use free trial of server edition. I know it’s less convenient but at least you will have a working system. I will do that! Thanks for so far! ---
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:11am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/38 "2020-11-19T05:11:31Z")
True. Just when I did the last step, I thought I had to do it first! Hopefully all reading this will benefit now. “Download the latest version of Manager before starting to trouble shoot.” ---
**Author:** ![Alistar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Alistar](https://forum.manager.io/u/Alistar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:12am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/39 "2020-11-19T05:12:48Z")
Yes, now I am using the latest version, after all that trouble shooting 😀 ---
**Author:** ![marko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@marko](https://forum.manager.io/u/marko)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655/40 "2020-11-19T09:14:53Z")
Hi, I have a similar problem with Manager, running version 2.10.65 and using Big Sur on Mac OS. When I create a Purchase Invoice, and hit ENTER anywhere in the input boxes, Manager will close, and Mac OS will give me a failure report. [Previous page](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.manager.io/t/manager-crashes-with-macos-11-big-sur/31655.md?page=3)