# Impossible to migrate from 16.9.98 to 21.7.28 with 20.9.89 recommendation **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 8:44am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185 "2021-07-20T08:44:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![macsmazza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@macsmazza](https://forum.manager.io/u/macsmazza)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:44am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/1 "2021-07-20T08:44:46Z")
Hi, I’ve been running v16.9.98 till yesterday. When I changed computer I lost the possibility to open my database. I saw posts from 2020 where it is suggested to run version 20.9.89 which is supposed to open the file and convert it to SQLlite but it does not work. I tried to run older versions but they are not opening at all saying that I should download a newer version. Can you please help? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Joe91](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/joe91/32/35781_2.png) [@Joe91](https://forum.manager.io/u/Joe91)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/2 "2021-07-20T08:54:26Z")
Search the forum for how to do this ---
**Author:** ![macsmazza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@macsmazza](https://forum.manager.io/u/macsmazza)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/3 "2021-07-20T09:20:08Z")
I appreciate the suggestion but if I ended up trying version 20.9.89 means I found it as the solution suggested by lubos in all the posts I read. since this did not work unfortunately. Or maybe I’m doing something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/4 "2021-07-20T09:52:13Z")
Have you followed the process described here [Restoring data issue - #2 by Patch](https://forum.manager.io/t/restoring-data-issue/34340/2) What is actually going wrong / how is it failing? ---
**Author:** ![macsmazza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@macsmazza](https://forum.manager.io/u/macsmazza)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/5 "2021-07-20T10:47:21Z")
Hi, I installed v 20.9.89, tried to open the DB and got this message: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/manager1/original/3X/9/3/9377dda2696c610c2f56f46169e3bcf44dacde6a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Mark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Mark](https://forum.manager.io/u/Mark)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/6 "2021-07-20T11:07:45Z")
> [@macsmazza](#): > > Hi, I’ve been running v16.9.98 till yesterday. When I changed computer I lost the possibility to open my database. You can find the older versions on [Github](https://github.com/Manager-io/Manager.msi/releases). Just find the version you were using and install it. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/7 "2021-07-20T11:14:43Z")
> [@macsmazza](#): > > I’ve been running v16.9.98 That is rather old. I’m not sure if the sql importer in v20.9.89 can update a version 4 years old at that time. By the way is it just that business file? Do you have other backups which can be imported by v20.9.89? It is possible for a file to become corrupted and not readable by any version of Manager > [@Mark](#): > > You can find the older versions on [Github](https://github.com/Manager-io/Manager.msi/releases). Just find the version you were using and install it. That’s a good way to check if the business file is actually corrupted so not readable by any version of Manager However it appear that archive only goes back to Nov 2019 [https://github.com/Manager-io/Manager.msi/releases?after=19.11.71](https://github.com/Manager-io/Manager.msi/releases?after=19.11.71) ---
**Author:** ![macsmazza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@macsmazza](https://forum.manager.io/u/macsmazza)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/8 "2021-07-20T13:06:40Z")
You are indeed right. Github doesn’t go that back. Anyway according to thread " [Restoring data issue](https://forum.manager.io/t/restoring-data-issue/34340)" v20.9.89 is supposed to read v16.x.x databases. Simply it doesn’t on my machine. Anyway If I try to go earlier with the versions I get a series of errors all different but similar to this: ![Screenshot 2021-07-20 150443](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/manager1/original/3X/9/0/90758d2e0cc84a3a9ef5660b90978c8b1eaa6fcb.png) At the same time I can still open the same DB with the old version on my old computer with v16.x.x which means it is not corrupted. ---
**Author:** ![macsmazza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@macsmazza](https://forum.manager.io/u/macsmazza)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/9 "2021-07-20T13:35:22Z")
for completeness of information if I try to import the DB instead of opening it I get this message: ![Screenshot 2021-07-20 153355](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/manager1/original/3X/2/c/2c6221bac98c3e61ed9b1ed46d2ac933229bab08.png) ---
**Author:** ![Joe91](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/joe91/32/35781_2.png) [@Joe91](https://forum.manager.io/u/Joe91)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/10 "2021-07-20T13:50:17Z")
I believe that message mneans that you are trying to open import it with version 20.9.48 and the import file has already been opened with a later version The messages are from two different versions - 20.9.58 and 20.9.48 ---
**Author:** ![macsmazza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@macsmazza](https://forum.manager.io/u/macsmazza)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/11 "2021-07-20T13:56:17Z")
I’ve done e number of tests, which include hopping versions. Every time I try with the original DB (which still opens flawlessly with v16.x.x). Funny that I tried installing the oldest version available (v19.11.0) which is not starting at all… I also tried opening from another folder with a shorter path (you never know). I’m running out of tricks. ---
**Author:** ![Davide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@Davide](https://forum.manager.io/u/Davide)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/12 "2021-07-20T14:45:27Z")
Write directly to @lubos, the developer. I think that it can help you update the DB ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/13 "2023-09-30T09:41:43Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > Have you followed the process described here [Restoring data issue - #2 by Patch](https://forum.manager.io/t/restoring-data-issue/34340/2) > [@On another topic](https://forum.manager.io/t/49170/1): > > links are broken, where can I find a copy of the install files for 20.9.89? It appears the current repository only goes back to 22.6.1.53 [Releases · Manager-io/Manager · GitHub](https://github.com/Manager-io/Manager/releases?expanded=true&page=37&q=) The archive versions go back to 21.4.42 [Releases · Manager-io/Manager.zip · GitHub](https://github.com/Manager-io/Manager.zip/releases?page=62) So I suspect @lubos will have to indicate what is the current preferred solution as his prior advice is no longer possible [Business database not valid, desktop version on Windows 10 - #2 by lubos](https://forum.manager.io/t/business-database-not-valid-desktop-version-on-windows-10/31650/2) Downloading from a forum post is not ideal (and the forum limits uploads to 8MB) ---
**Author:** ![Ealfardan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/ealfardan/32/63166_2.png) [@Ealfardan](https://forum.manager.io/u/Ealfardan)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/impossible-to-migrate-from-16-9-98-to-21-7-28-with-20-9-89-recommendation/36185/14 "2026-07-05T20:19:22Z")
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