# Does reverse charge work with cash basis accounting **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [January 5, 2021, 8:31am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395 "2021-01-05T08:31:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/21 "2021-01-06T22:51:24Z")
> [@lubos](#): > > I fixed that for reverse charge tax codes on sales invoices. @lubos, I am curious about this. Reverse charged VAT normally applies only on purchases, preventing the tax authority from having to collect tax from an entity outside their jurisdiction. Why would it be needed on sales invoices? ---
**Author:** ![Abeiku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/abeiku/32/44970_2.png) [@Abeiku](https://forum.manager.io/u/Abeiku)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/22 "2021-01-06T23:07:27Z")
> [@Tut](#): > > Why would it be needed on sales invoices? Tax laws are getting more complex. I’m sure it needed in some tax jurisdictions ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/23 "2021-01-07T00:00:45Z")
> [@Tut](#): > > Reverse charged VAT normally applies only on purchases, preventing the tax authority from having to collect tax from an entity outside their jurisdiction. Why would it be needed on sales invoices? It’s just simpler if reverse charged tax codes behave the same way without the consideration for transaction type. I think it is harmless considering you wouldn’t use reverse charged tax codes on sales invoices in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![arjendn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/arjendn/32/17413_2.png) [@arjendn](https://forum.manager.io/u/arjendn)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/24 "2021-01-07T06:01:54Z")
> [@Tut](#): > > Reverse charged VAT normally applies only on purchases Hi @Tut, in the EU the reverse charge mechanism works both ways. VAT law and regulations are to a large degree unified within the EU. The rates differ however. All so-called “intra-community trade” (basically B2B transaction between taxable persons from two EU member states) need to be taxed in the country where the customer is based, not, as normally would be the case, where the supplier is based. In this situation both supplier and customer need to treat the transaction as reverse charged. @lubos, as I suggested earlier, would it be possible to tweak the Tax Summary report to group RC transactions and non-RC transactions separately? And another grouping could be helpful too: for some reason the EU requires reporting of goods and “related services” separate from services. I use separate Tax Codes for this purpose. But it would be handy to have a grouping option on the Tax Summary report. ---
**Author:** ![Brucanna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/brucanna/32/1960_2.png) [@Brucanna](https://forum.manager.io/u/Brucanna)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/25 "2021-01-09T13:35:02Z")
> [@Ealfardan](#): > > If you issue invoices, then it’s accrual basis all the way. This is incorrect. There is absolutely nothing wrong in having your financial / management reporting on an accrual basis and your taxation reporting on a cash basis. That is why tax authorities allow the option. > [@arjendn](#): > > I chose cash accounting . . . . because I don’t have to pre-finance my government: Well said, something which few accountants actually understand - but the “layman” does. ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/26 "2021-01-09T14:04:57Z")
> [@Brucanna](#): > > That is why tax authorities allow the option. Not all tax authorities do, especially when inventory is involved. ---
**Author:** ![arjendn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/arjendn/32/17413_2.png) [@arjendn](https://forum.manager.io/u/arjendn)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/27 "2021-01-09T15:57:37Z")
Technically tax authorities don’t allow anything. They are only following the law of their land (supposedly…). They don’t usually make those laws. But indeed, laws differ hugely from one country to another. That’s why I am utterly in awe about Manager being so versatile that it can accommodate for many, if not all jurisdictions. ---
**Author:** ![Brucanna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/brucanna/32/1960_2.png) [@Brucanna](https://forum.manager.io/u/Brucanna)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/28 "2021-01-13T12:34:37Z")
> [@Tut](#): > > Not all tax authorities do, especially when inventory is involved. Firstly, the very generic statement “That is why tax authorities allow the option” was never intended to “catch all” tax authorities per se (as your response implies), as many tax authorities, such as the USA, don’t have GST / VAT taxes and therefore they were a natural exclusion from being embraced by both the topic and the statement, however, thanks for your nit picking of the post, the first for the year. Secondly, your comment “especially when inventory is involved” is factually incorrect. Inventory and the GST / VAT tax reporting basis aren’t necessarily linked. For example User Dalacor has both inventory and cash basis VAT reporting. They are in the UK. ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/29 "2021-01-13T14:09:14Z")
> [@Brucanna](#): > > your comment “especially when inventory is involved” is factually incorrect. Inventory and the GST / VAT tax reporting basis aren’t necessarily linked. No, my statement was not incorrect. And I never mentioned such a linkage. My only statement was that not all tax authorities allow financial accounting on an accrual basis and tax reporting on a cash basis. Your example of the USA is proof, where inventory generally excludes the use of cash basis accounting for tax reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Ealfardan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/ealfardan/32/63166_2.png) [@Ealfardan](https://forum.manager.io/u/Ealfardan)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/does-reverse-charge-work-with-cash-basis-accounting/32395/30 "2023-01-18T14:46:33Z")
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