# Desktop edition to server edition **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [November 16, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326 "2019-11-16T04:59:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JPR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/jpr/32/22132_2.png) [@JPR](https://forum.manager.io/u/JPR)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/1 "2019-11-16T04:59:11Z")
I am currently using desktop edition and wanted to try the sevrer edition free trial before i proceed to purchase the server edition. Can I transfer the whole business file usong the back up file from desktop to server edition? ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 7:12am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/2 "2019-11-16T07:12:45Z")
Yes It works as normal, backup the desktop versions and restore it to the server version see [Backup, restore and transfer businesses](https://www.manager.io/guides/8890) The only difference is when your free trial expires you will no longer have access to hosted (cloud) data, so back up the cloud data file to a local location, prior to your trial expiring. ---
**Author:** ![JPR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/jpr/32/22132_2.png) [@JPR](https://forum.manager.io/u/JPR)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/3 "2019-11-16T11:30:28Z")
Thank for the info. ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/4 "2019-11-16T19:29:18Z")
We actually allow to download backups from cloud edition even if free trial expires or subscription is cancelled. We are not holding anyone’s data hostage. See [https://cloud.manager.io/customer-service](https://cloud.manager.io/customer-service) (there is `Download Backup` button) ---
**Author:** ![novica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/novica/32/7414_2.png) [@novica](https://forum.manager.io/u/novica)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/5 "2019-11-16T21:02:11Z")
> [@lubos](#): > > We are not holding anyone’s data hostage. This should really be on the front page of [manager.io](http://manager.io). 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/6 "2019-11-17T02:11:37Z")
> [@novica](#): > > This should really be on the front page I agree it is an important pervasive philosophy of Manager. It is actually already prominently displayed on the [cloud page](https://www.manager.io/cloud/) and [cloud price page](https://www.manager.io/cloud/pricing/). There has been some confusion about what happens at the end of a trial period, or perhaps Manger has recently been enhanced. I suspect the cloud version deserves it’s own guide, which would fit nicely in the “First steps” → “Software version” section of the guide. There are a few functions specific to the cloud versions such as: - Extra back up options - URL setup - Subscription renewal (before expiry, after expiry vs starting a subscription) - Administrator password reset - Other white label features such as extra URL, help link Particularly given even with a reasonable forum search this information has not been that obvious eg: > [@After Trial period](https://forum.manager.io/t/after-trial-period/24392/1): > > What happens after the 7 days of free trial period? > Will I lose my data? > [@After Trial period](https://forum.manager.io/t/after-trial-period/24392/4): > > if you didn’t paid, you can’t log in or > [@Backing Up Data again from Cloud edition](https://forum.manager.io/t/backing-up-data-again-from-cloud-edition/23646/6): > > You note that it says Downgrade back to [free desktop edition](https://www.manager.io/) at any point of time in future. Unlike other cloud accounting solutions, with us, you will never lose access to your data when you stop your subscription as you can always download full backup and import into desktop edition for free. But as you never started your subscription, … Anyway, how much data did you enter in the 7 days? Surely you can do it again in the desktop version And for large data files > [@Having Problem Backing up Manager IO cloud version](https://forum.manager.io/t/having-problem-backing-up-manager-io-cloud-version/24697/2): > > Backups of very large files can fail using Backup button. There will be a solution to this within a few months but for the time being, there is an alternative way to obtain a backup. Go to [Cloud Edition | Manager](https://www.manager.io/cloud/) and click Management Console. You will be able to log into management console for your site. There is Backups tab which contains all the data on our backup server. ---
**Author:** ![sharpdrivetek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/sharpdrivetek/32/34244_2.png) [@sharpdrivetek](https://forum.manager.io/u/sharpdrivetek)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/7 "2019-11-17T04:06:07Z")
> [@JPR](#): > > I am currently using desktop edition and wanted to try the sevrer edition free trial before i proceed to purchase the server edition. > Can I transfer the whole business file usong the back up file from desktop to server edition? are you asking about the server edition or cloud edition? they are both different. all the answers given were related to cloud edition which is hosted on Manager servers whereas a server edition is self hosted. to answer your initial question, yes you can switch between any edition of Manager without losing your business data. ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/8 "2020-06-17T12:56:43Z")
Split this topic on June 17, 2020, 12:56pm UTC A post was split to a new topic: [Accessing account after changing billing details](https://forum.manager.io/t/accessing-account-after-changing-billing-details/28822) ---
**Author:** ![Paulfs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@Paulfs](https://forum.manager.io/u/Paulfs)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:13am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/9 "2021-01-01T09:13:31Z")
Hi I am using [Manager.io](http://Manager.io) desktop for quite some months now coming from quicken. And I must say, a very good job you do. My congratulations. My question is the following: The free for ever desktop version is very nice. But Did you consider a limited to one single user cloud version to allow us to access it on different devices? Ps I understand a company can share the credentials to different individuals, but I am a positive man trusting people not to do that:-) Regard A happy user Paul (europe) ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/10 "2021-01-01T14:29:56Z")
@Paulfs, you can already do that by moving your application data folder to the cloud. See the Guide: [Move desktop application data to another folder | Manager](https://www.manager.io/guides/10348). ---
**Author:** ![Paulfs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@Paulfs](https://forum.manager.io/u/Paulfs)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/11 "2021-01-01T14:53:43Z")
Hi Tut Thank for the quick reply and happy new year to you and all in the team But, moving to the cloud for single user for a tiny business means a subscription of appr $40 month, wich does not make real sense For single user a fee of 40/year would be more suitable IMHO. Cheers Paul ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/12 "2021-01-01T15:04:33Z")
Did you read the Guide? Free cloud services are available for modest storage allowances, and you can add storage capacity to many for very little money. Storing your Manager data in the cloud involves no cost unless your cloud storage itself has a cost. ---
**Author:** ![Paulfs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@Paulfs](https://forum.manager.io/u/Paulfs)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/13 "2021-01-01T15:36:02Z")
Tut, sorry for not yet understanding On the cloud page I do not locate the “Free cloud services are available for modest storage allowances” only the 7 day trial and 39usd/mnth? Paul ---
**Author:** ![Tut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/tut/32/3286_2.png) [@Tut](https://forum.manager.io/u/Tut)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/14 "2021-01-01T15:48:38Z")
@Paulfs, you are misunderstanding. I am not referring to any Manager service. I am trying to tell you that you can move your Manager data anywhere—including a cloud storage service that you obtain for free. Once your data is in the cloud, the desktop edition will access it there. So any computer that can run Manager can access that data, as long as internet access is available. You do not need to subscribe to anything related to Manager. Only if you exceed the free storage limit on your cloud service (such as Dropbox or iCloud) would you have any cost. ---
**Author:** ![Paulfs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@Paulfs](https://forum.manager.io/u/Paulfs)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/15 "2021-01-01T16:43:09Z")
Aaaah, oooh Clear, will continue to use the desktop version, which I appreciate Cheers ---
**Author:** ![Mubeen\_Hussain2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/mubeen_hussain2/32/29567_2.png) [@Mubeen\_Hussain2](https://forum.manager.io/u/Mubeen_Hussain2)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:04am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/16 "2021-09-20T05:04:15Z")
Hey. This is still working? I am not seeing any backup button, I have purchased new subscription from another email, I just need backup. @lubos @Tut Regards ---
**Author:** ![Ealfardan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/ealfardan/32/63166_2.png) [@Ealfardan](https://forum.manager.io/u/Ealfardan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/17 "2021-09-20T06:19:55Z")
There’s a button inside each business for that. You need admin rights or at least full access for that button to show. ---
**Author:** ![Mubeen\_Hussain2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/mubeen_hussain2/32/29567_2.png) [@Mubeen\_Hussain2](https://forum.manager.io/u/Mubeen_Hussain2)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 6:48am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/18 "2021-09-20T06:48:33Z")
I was using cloud trial version and it got expired and now I am not seeing any backup data button ---
**Author:** ![Ealfardan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/ealfardan/32/63166_2.png) [@Ealfardan](https://forum.manager.io/u/Ealfardan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/19 "2021-09-20T07:25:38Z")
You shouldn’t rely on free trial to store your actual data. You could’ve used the desktop version if you wanted to test it for extended period. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 8:17am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326/20 "2021-09-20T08:17:40Z")
> [@Mubeen\_Hussain2](#): > > I was using cloud trial version and it got expired Go to the cloud customer service portal [https://cloud.manager.io/](https://cloud.manager.io/) And select download a backup [Next page](https://forum.manager.io/t/desktop-edition-to-server-edition/25326.md?page=2)