# Aussies. How's Manager treating you? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [December 9, 2024, 9:01am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824 "2024-12-09T09:01:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![logic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@logic](https://forum.manager.io/u/logic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:01am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/1 "2024-12-09T09:01:38Z")
Hey mates. Keen to hear pros/cons for using Manager in the Australian business/reporting context. I tried self-hosting BigCapital, but this seems equal and easier. I will admit that I don’t know anything about accounting, but my situation is quite simple (see below). I am curious where the BAS and STP reporting has landed and if the workflow with Manager has been simple enough. FYI, I am the sole employee for the forseeable future, but still acting as a company (not a sole trader). I don’t have inventory so my use case will only be: invoicing for services, claiming business expenses as a subcontractor, general tax deductoble expenses (PC, mobile, internet), payroll for myself, and ATO reporting. Any and all suggestions, lessons learned, warnings are welcomed. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/2 "2024-12-09T11:27:05Z")
Should handle that easily. Best way to find out is try it. - Install desktop version (it’s free) - Create a test business & enter some dummy data (easiest with round numbers and a single transaction at a time) - Look at the summary page and reports which can easily be generated ---
**Author:** ![eko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@eko](https://forum.manager.io/u/eko)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 12:03pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/3 "2024-12-09T12:03:50Z")
In addition to @Patch also in relation to: > [@logic](#): > > I will admit that I don’t know anything about accounting Consult: > **[Learn Accounting Online for Free | AccountingCoach](https://www.accountingcoach.com/)** > > Are you looking for a great accounting program? With the AccountingCoach large number of free online courses, you can start learning today and get an accounting certificate! and use the older Manager guides: [https://www2.manager.io/guides](https://www2.manager.io/guides) ---
**Author:** ![logic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@logic](https://forum.manager.io/u/logic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/4 "2024-12-09T23:24:36Z")
Thanks. I have been playing around with the software for a few days and it feels intuitive, with the biggest let down being my understanding of all the terms and connections (i.e., double entry). ---
**Author:** ![logic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@logic](https://forum.manager.io/u/logic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/5 "2024-12-09T23:25:13Z")
Thanks this has helped alot! ---
**Author:** ![logic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@logic](https://forum.manager.io/u/logic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/6 "2024-12-09T23:27:13Z")
Anybody have any thoughts on best practices for handling payroll, STP, BAS, GST, and ATO compliance? Any hiccups that were described in previous (now closed) threads that persist? ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/7 "2024-12-09T23:43:01Z")
> [@logic](#): > > handling payroll, STP, BAS, GST, and ATO compliance? For a single employee, just use Manager ---
**Author:** ![rquinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@rquinn](https://forum.manager.io/u/rquinn)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:19am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/8 "2024-12-13T08:19:37Z")
I have used both MYOB and then QB; QB for the last 22 yrs for my (aust) business and 12 years for a not for profit sporting club. I now use Manager for the club (retired from work) and it does every thing that QB does and more. Can add a lot more custom fields and can do better reports incorporating years of past history. Its forgiving unlike some some double entry accounting programs. ---
**Author:** ![logic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@logic](https://forum.manager.io/u/logic)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 8:35am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/9 "2024-12-15T08:35:06Z")
Thanks. I have put some time into it and it seems like it’s going to be quite easy to keep organised given the low complexity of my customers and services. ---
**Author:** ![Gonzohead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/gonzohead/32/53165_2.png) [@Gonzohead](https://forum.manager.io/u/Gonzohead)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/10 "2024-12-19T23:14:13Z")
If comparing Manager to MYOB and Xero, Manager is a dream come true! I was employed by MYOB for 12yrs and several years before they went cloud based they had a brilliant program. Four years ago I had to setup an accounting system for a church and trying both MYOB and Xero sent my blood pressure through the roof! Navigating their screens was slow and anything but intuitive. By chance I came across Manager which lowered my risk of having a stroke! It’s free, it runs locally, and MY data is on MY computer. The screen layouts are intuitive and it’s easy to navigate between functions. Great program! ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Sagoe-Moses](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/charles_sagoe-moses/32/53439_2.png) [@Charles\_Sagoe-Moses](https://forum.manager.io/u/Charles_Sagoe-Moses)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/11 "2025-01-04T12:15:45Z")
Hi everyone, I am new to the [Forum.Manager.io](http://Forum.Manager.io). I have no accounting background but I want to find out if you know someone in Accra, Ghana using Manager software for basic accounting to help me start using Manager for a small business that has just began. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![eko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@eko](https://forum.manager.io/u/eko)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/12 "2025-01-04T13:02:51Z")
Look at [https://www.manager.io/accountants](https://www.manager.io/accountants) ---
**Author:** ![Cenafox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@Cenafox](https://forum.manager.io/u/Cenafox)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/13 "2025-01-11T01:32:54Z")
Hey guys, Ive been using manager for the last couple of years and I love the program. So far I have it set up as a partnership but we would like to get employees. I dont understand the single touch payroll at all. Can I submit this to the ATO or do I need an agent, or do I need a third party software report for employees. There doesnt seem to be a free option for STP except FAS3 and that program is not as good as manager. How do you all do it? As for the rest of the program, it is awesome that everything is local and easy to manage. The only problem I have is being able to batch download attachments and images for tax audits. Hasnt happened yet but I dont want to have to manually download each file and link/name it so that it is associated with an entry on the reports. ---
**Author:** ![lubos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.manager.io/lubos/32/62798_2.png) [@lubos](https://forum.manager.io/u/lubos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/14 "2025-01-11T01:42:50Z")
> [@Cenafox](#): > > Can I submit this to the ATO or do I need an agent, or do I need a third party software report for employees. SingleTouch unfortunatelly cannot be directly reported to ATO like BAS. You need 3rd-party provider such as SingleTouch.com.au. Manager can generate spreadsheet file that you can import to SingleTouch.com.au or you can enter the figures manually to SingleTouch.com.au ---
**Author:** ![Cenafox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@Cenafox](https://forum.manager.io/u/Cenafox)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/15 "2025-01-13T03:19:21Z")
Thanks Lubos. It is unfortunate that ATO has mandated 3rd party providers for STP increasing costs of micro businesses. ---
**Author:** ![logic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@logic](https://forum.manager.io/u/logic)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 5:20am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/16 "2025-01-15T05:20:01Z")
Found this as a free option for micro business, but haven’t tested yet. [https://www.freepay.com.au/](https://www.freepay.com.au/) ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://forum.manager.io/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 6:29am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/17 "2025-01-15T06:29:22Z")
If you are not paying for a service you are not the customer you are the product being sold. Privacy and data confidentiality would concern me with such options. But everyone has their price, perhaps $7.50 per month is enough for some [https://www.singletouch.com.au/Pricing?Length=4](https://www.singletouch.com.au/Pricing?Length=4) ---
**Author:** ![eko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@eko](https://forum.manager.io/u/eko)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 6:46am UTC](https://forum.manager.io/t/aussies-hows-manager-treating-you/58824/18 "2025-01-15T06:46:18Z")
@Patch, only the first 3 employees are free see [https://www.freepay.com.au/cloud-single-touch-payroll-pricing](https://www.freepay.com.au/cloud-single-touch-payroll-pricing), So this may be suitable for those that only employ few, but even when growing is cheaper than the $7.50/month/employee.